Katie Spades Busted!

[iggy]

Aside from the fact that katie spades getting busted just makes me laugh...I have to say that I'd be less than pleased if someone in my apartment building was buzzing in strangers (they met on craigslist no less) and allowing a stream of people into the building. That really compromises the security of your building. I mean who knows who you are letting in. Katie sure didn't, since she let in a cop!

Then there's the noise, etc. Spanking and BDSM activities don't tend to be quiet.

[ToddnSuzy]

We certainly fall into the camp that says karma just gave Katie/Kara/etc one heck of a spanking... and, of course, we all know the former 'Princess of Spanking' doesn't like spanking.
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She admits that she set out*with a calculated plan to extract money from the spanko community with lies and deceit.* That with her*'gorgeous' looks (when compared to others in the industry) and knowledge of spanking from research... along with immersing herself into the community under false pretenses (pretending to be a spanko)... she'd become a star and make "tons of money."
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She further elaborates that Jake was initially against the idea... until he saw the money to be made.* And that they both agreed this was a better way to make a buck than porn.* That she had to be*"wasted" to actually do the spanking... what she says... apparently wasn't enough of a negative to push porn to the top of the money making list of ideas.
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When she decided to exit the spanking community... she did so by asking for $650,000 for her life threatening illnesses (through her 'Save Katie' site).* And she did ask.* She directly solicited us, asking that we help put the word out (through our blog) that she desperately needed help.
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Of course, she did this while also slamming the spanking community in the media, and bragging about her the cleverness of her scheme.
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When all this came to a head, we did cut Katie somewhat of a break in our beer.com interview with her.* We figured she was young, and she was exiting the scene anyway... so, no money for her scam donation site of course... but, good luck in life.
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Turns out, she wasn't all that young... and she wasn't exiting the scene at all.* INSTEAD, she had a new way to scam money from spankos.* And yes, it was a scam.* Does anyone believe for a second she was even semi-honest with her clients?* That she was upfront about her experience as a disciplinarian?* That she told them how disgusting she thought spanking marks were?* That she shared her feelings about spanking and spankos?
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The professional disciplinarians we know are real spankos. Their profession grew out of a real interest in spanking. It was something they'd long thought about... then started to try... then do... then realized they were ~good at it~ and a living could be made. It wasn't just another scam... in a long stream of scams... to make money.

Zero sympathy for Katie. She got what she deserved.

As for the angle that what happened to Katie is bad for spankos... because we shouldn't ever be happy about the law getting involved with spanking... we completely disagree with that.

The police are saying Katie was offering "virtually everything"... and for $50 more, she'd give "benefits" beyond that virtually everything. She was offering sex along with the spanking, which makes her a prostitute. She was doing this on Craig's List (at least) and working out of her residential apartment.

Would anyone want that next door to them?

The black eye Katie gives spanking comes from the fact that she is somehow seen as a spanko. If she were dismissed as the lying, manipulative, money hungry whore she is... it would be better for the community. She's busted for hooking off of Craig's List... the only thing bad about that, is when spankos say the arrest is bad for spankos (because it pretends Katie is one of us).

That's our opinion anyway.


Here is a link to some of our posts about Katie, including our beer.com interview with her...

http://associety.blogspot.com/2007/0...-spanking.html

[EmmyDoll]

Alright.

It's my two cents worth on it.

Katie Spades HAS screwed up.

And don't get me wrong, I do not condone most of the things that she did, but I think that the spanking community is just way to hateful in the way that they are taking this arest deal.

I'm not defending her, by no doubt.

But, just because she bashed our community does not make her a horrible person. It makes her ignorant and unaccepting, but it gives us no reason to cast stones, especially when most of us live in a glass house.

We cannot point fingers at Katie and Jake for making money off 'bondage' 'roleplay' and anything 'scene related' because there are many people in our world that our paid Mistresses.

The only thing that we CAN frown upon is that there might have been soliciotation of sex, which, isn't really any of our buisness anyway is it?

Lets cut the people some breaks and stop talking about them. They seem to be having a hard enough time without knowing that there is a whole community of people who are angry at them.

[ToddnSuzy]

EmmyDoll... Katie got a lot of love from us. We gladly helped promote her career, based in good part on the personal relationship she'd developed with us through Emails and chats. She was a true spanko, afterall... that had the same mindset we did.

Turns out she not only lied to us... but, she mocked us after the fact... while ALSO, at the same time... asking us to help her raise $650,000 for medical bills (she asked us for money directly, and asked us to also solicit others in her behalf). Keep in mind, she was making around $400 an hour!

So, we did take it a little personally... as did others that received similar treatment (such as "unattractive" spanking models).

Hate is too strong of a word though. She was arrested for something rather minor... and likely faces a fine and some legal costs. It's not like folks are dancing on her grave. She'll be fine in this life... most especially if her lazy ass gets a j-o-b and gives up these get rich quick scams.

As for this "glass houses" stuff... hmmm... we don't offer to give blow jobs on Craig's List. If it's shown that Katie actually didn't do that, and this REALLY is ~just about spanking~... you'll have a point. As is, we'll lay 10 to 1 that she pleas out and takes her slap on the wrist.

Finally, is any of this our business? Well, she did participate in the spanking community in a very-very public way. She went to extremes to be seen and heard and known (including her appearance as 'The Princess of Spanking' on the Howard Stern Show). Then when she supposedly exited the scene... she again did so in a very public way (going on beer.com and mocking and blasting the community). She WANTED to be a big fish in a little pond. Mission accomplished there. Unfortunately (for her)... people tend to notice when a big fish is hooked (or hookered, as the case may be).

four cents there,

[g_r_frankfurter]

I think the only reason this lady got arrested was because there was money involved, and the government didn't get their share of it.

Gerald

[aurora]

Okay, once upon a time Ian and I discussed the technicalities involved should I ever want to become a professional disciplinarian/Domme. (Yeah, yeah, those who know me are laughing their asses off at the thought.) Anyways, I wasn't convinced that it would be totally legal. I was concerned that it might be considered prostitution, despite that I would never engage in sex acts in such a situation. His solution was that all I would need is an entertainer's license, and it makes it completely legal. I've never even heard of an entertainer's license, but I trust him to be a knowledgeable source. Especially since he's friends with many of the top pro Dommes and they must have some secrets for success.

Does anyone else have thoughts on this or have you ever heard of this? Is this a way of making it look like extreme theater, rather than sexual lewdness in the eyes of the law? I mean, surely there should be some way in which we can engage all the facets of our consentual lifestyle without fear of the judicial system.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by scChris

Hey all,
I have not posted on this board before. So Hi. Anyway, I am aware of all the lies Katie Spades used to manipulate people in the scene, and I realize she has a karmic smackdown coming to her. On the other hand, any time the law comes down on the kinksters, is it really a good thing? I mean, what about the professionals in the spanking scene, some of which are friends. There are those who find it difficult to get their spanking needs met and therefore seek out pros, both top and bottom. I would hate to see a crackdown on these people. Yes, it is Katie Spades. True she is a F$%# up. But still, I don't think an arrest of this nature is something to celebrate. Just my opinion.
Chris in Santa Cruz

Katie is a sweet person. I am sorry to hear about her legal problems.

[spanked~amber]

http://www.beer.com/beer.com-Content...1_article.html

[aurora]

I'm so happy we've got such an upstanding and well-spoken member of our community to represent us to the mainstream populion.


If anyone wants to hear first hand how she got into spanking because she knew she could jump to the top of the industry and make lots of money because our other models aren't attractive, it's episode 25 in Amber's link above, then continued into episodes 26 and 27. Beware though, you may want to take a few grains of salt before downloading the clips.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by aurora

I'm so happy we've got such an upstanding and well-spoken member of our community to represent us to the mainstream populion.


If anyone wants to hear first hand how she got into spanking because she knew she could jump to the top of the industry and make lots of money because our other models aren't attractive, it's episode 25 in Amber's link above, then continued into episodes 26 and 27. Beware though, you may want to take a few grains of salt before downloading the clips.

I think that Katie just needs a good spanking. I have never felt betrayed by Katie. She provided many videos, a lot of which her and Jake offered free of charge.