[Billy Wizz]

Thanks for the replies so far.

I have always found it funny that people think that spanking isn't kinky. The Sunday papers in the UK thought it was very kinky until recently, especially if you were a member of the Government. I remember in my youth the endless stories of kinky couples spanking in the News of the World. I love being kinky and and proud to think of myself as a kinky spanker. It makes one sound more interesting.

Personally I think to dismiss spanking as less of an art than say Japanese Rope bondage is an incorrect thing to do. Both require a lot of practice and skill to do correctly. And from my observations at fetish fairs the belief that anyone can do can be dangerous to the BDSM submissive being caned or whipped.

I can see what you are saying, BlackVelvet007, that the BDSM community in it purest form can be more 24/7 in nature that dictates even the clothes someone wears. It can be far more controlling than the spanking kink. However the spanking kink also has it's elements of 24/7 relationships in the form of Domestic Discipline scene which has lots of throw backs to the spanking scene.

I do wonder how may pure spankers are out there. How many of us play on the fringes of BDSM or take what we like from BDSM?

I know in the past I have used mind control games to control a spankee with their consent. Or incorporated the more, let us say, erotic side of spankings which included orgasm control and orgasm overload to the extent of getting my spanking partner into subspace. Is this part of the spanking scene or part of the BDSM scene? I know the ladies I have spanked have always been grateful.

Kyra I think you might be right that spanking is just a specialist form of BDSM as is something like Japanese Rope bondage when performed exclusively on its own. The thing is I'm sure there are few pure spankers out there. Most of us play other games that cross the lines.