Model To Be Caned In Malaysia?
 

It seems that a 32 year old model who was convicted of drinking beer in Malaysia and sentenced to 6 strokes of the rattan is eager to get her caning behind her.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/8866...t-says-kartika

Dag. She's a hell of a lot braver about it than Michael Fay was back in 93.

Now how wrong is it to wish to be a fly on the wall?

Not wrong at all BV. I wouldn't mind seeing this too. On a related note, I read a story where pop star Beyonce canceled a concert tour to Malaysia a couple of years ago because the government threated her with a public caning if she came there and performed in her racy stage outfits. Seeing how she has a bottom made for caning, I would have really loved to have been a fly on the wall if that had come to fruition.

The only trouble I see with all of this is that the Malaysians apparently have no idea about the proper way to can a lady. Don't they know that her bottom must be bare and she needs to be bending over?

So this begs the question: exactly who CAN drink beer in Malaysia??

Only the Malaysians know!

The way I understand it, Gary, there are two sets of laws in Malaysia; civil laws which apply to everyone and Syariah laws which only apply to Muslims. She is a Muslim and therefore is subject to the Syariah laws which forbids drinking alcohol. The club where she was caught was not required to determined if patrons were Muslim or not before serving them, and therefore no charges were filed against the proprietors. But there was another woman, a 22 year old, who was also arrested in the same raid and received the same sentence. But she has appealed her sentence and so it will be a while if and when she is also caned.

I guess it sucks to be a Muslim in Malaysia if you like to throw back a brewski or two. That is unless you also like to be caned, which may also apply. My only question is, I wonder if she was drinking Red Stripe Beer?


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To be fair to Michael Fay, he received a judicial style caning with a cane the size of a drainpipe which is an altogether different level of brutaility to what lies in store for our model friend. From what I gather she is in line for a beating that is more akin to a traditional school six of the best with a Headmaster type cane, which I don't doubt will be jolly painful but is unlikely to draw blood, or induce loss of conciousness and permenant scarring. Will be interesting to know if the lady will be secured over a trestle and caned on the bare bottom as I believe is usually the case with male offenders in Malaysia and Singapore.

You are right, Caneman! Don't confuse the type of lashes that she is facing with that of a Singapore-style caning which is brutal and pretty much amounts to torture. Men are stripped naked and fasten to a whipping post then their bare buttocks are slashed to ribbons with the rattan. This type of punishment causes great pain, leaves permanent scars and can even result in death.

What Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno is going to get hardly even qualifies as a good spanking. She won't have to grin and bare it. She will be fully clothed in Syariah garb. She will not be bending over and fastened to a whipping horse. She will be kneeling in a sitting position and only the upper portion of her buttocks will be accessible for the cane. The cane itself will be a much shorter and thinner model than the ones used by civil courts. It will resemble a switch more than a cane. The person administering the punishment will not be allowed to raise the cane above his head and will not be able to take a full swing. The lashes will be more like flicks of the cane than full strokes.

The whole thing is more symbolic than punitive. Its like a ceremony designed to send a message to other Muslim beer drinkers. She will most likely feel a mild sting upon impact which will fade quite rapidly. If her skin is marked at all she should have nothing more than six thin welts that will probably heal overnight. There will be not lasting damage or very much pain inflicted, except to her dignity. Other than the fact that she had to pay $1400, she's really getting off pretty easy by Muslim standards.

Have followed this story too . Good that people pointed out that it is not a Singapore type caning(which I understand they don't do to female criminals) which is as someone said, torture.
Whats disturbing is that there exists a legal system based on religion which permits this sort of thing to be done, the severity is beside the point. Of course one could convert-but understand that under Sharia law conversion from Islam is punishable by death-think a case like that was in the news from Afghanistan few years back.
Remember several years ago there was a case where two teenage Aussie girls got caned in Malaysia for possession of marijuana and that also was done with a school-type cane.
Would love to read the story about Beyonce getting threatened with a caning. Happen to have a link? May try to find it myself.

Here's a link to a Google search for the string "beyonce caning" (without the quotes: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=beyon...fp=flbC24gbdiA

Ssshhh.

Don't anybody let Britney Spears hear anything about Malaysia's policy ;)

LOL Have you seen those costumes she's been wearing in her latest tour.?And pictures of her in her bikini, and supershort shorts at her hotel.
The type of caning like for that model isnt very appealing though. Better would be when she is strutting around in the show for it to be interrupted and she be upended in her skimpy costume and spanked right there on stage!
An additional twist is for them to use an American school-type paddle on her out of "respect" her nationality.
People thought those pictures of her pantyless crotch got a lot of hits on the Web. That would be likely nothing compared to the number of hits for the pictures showing her being publically paddled on her bare bottom.

Hear them whip the women just around midnight...

On the heels of the beer drinking model in Malaysia comes news of a well known journalist who is facing 40 lashes in the Sudan for wearing pants in public.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I can't help but wonder. This lady, Lubna Hussein, almost seems a little too eager to be whipped. She says she wants her ordeal to be a test case to draw attention to women's rights.

She was arrested in a restaurant along with several other women. They all pleaded guilty and were each given 10 lashes at the police station. But she wants to go to trail and is facing 40 if convicted. She had U. N. status but resigned her position in order to avoid diplomatic immunity. Like I said, she certainly seems to be asking for it. She even wore pants to a court hearing, like she was just daring them to whip her.

I'm wondering, does anyone know exactly how these whippings are conducted in the Sudan? The only thing I could find said she would be flogged with a camel hair whip. I couldn't find any details about things like what body parts will be whipped, how she will be positioned, if she will be restrained or her state of dress.

J7,

I've searched around the net some and can't find much in the way of details about this at all.

Anyone know? Bueller? Anyone??

I can understand why people might be interested in these cases of judicial cp, but let us not forget why these women are being punished.
They are being punished because of a warped, fanatical religious interpretation that holds sway in their countries. Frankly, I find nothing funny or exciting about their situation. Anymore than I would about slaves being whipped in the old South.
The spanking community is about what some call SSC- safe,sane, and consensual. Now we all have our fantasies-like the story someone wrote about Paris Hilton being spanked for her drunk driving offense.
Its one thing to imagine a scenario where Beyonce or Britney get their bottoms blistered for violating a dress code. But that is fantasy.
For women under sharia law living under threat of such punishment is a brutal reality.

All of that is very true, but I think there is a part of us (spankos) that can't help but be somewhat fascinated by these cases and want to know the details. I'm really appalled at the Singapore-style caning that slashes the victim's buttocks to shreds and leaves permanent scars and excruciating pain. This is more akin to torture and should not be allowed for men or women. In fact, I don't think this type of caning is ever given to a woman.

But I think the sharia type caning facing the model in Malaysia is facing is much to do about nothing. Based on what I've read, this is more of a symbolic gesture than an actual caning. I'm going to reserve my judgment about the pants wearing journalist until I know more about the procedure.

But in theory, I'm against women being whipped for things like drinking beer and wearing pants or most anything else for that matter. And I'm not really in favor of judicial CP for not only women, but anybody. However, when cases like these are reported in the mainstream media, where women are facing the lash, there's just something in my psyche that causes me to pay attention.

Another very important question here! Would they allow the caning to be forgiven if someone were to offer to spank her soundly by hand over his knee? Inquiring minds do want to know these things.

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Okay I'll be the first female to give my http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8338/2cents3fo.gifworth. You don't even want to get me started on the whole forced religion subject. But after reading, the part that made me think "Oh no they didn't !" http://www.comicguide.net/images/smilies/wow2.gifwas that they had her en route to finally get it over with and then turned around and took her back home !?! And then called it compassionate reasons. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/frech/o050.gifOh wait, we changed our minds ...http://www.orrp.com/smf/Smileys/orrp/1-picture6.gif !
I may just be speaking for yours truly here, but the anticipation (for those of us who really have experienced CP punishment outside of the consentual spanko world) is enough to drive you batty to begin with. That would have been like being marched to the principals office a year after you were caught smoking or whatever and once you got there being told your demise was put on hold until after finals. I wouldn't have any thumbnails left and I'd probably have additional strokes added for the eyebrow raise I'd give em.

Speaking of caning. I always wanted to hear a judge say; "Marcia Clark, you are sentenced to 20 strokes of the cane........On the bare buttocks!"
And guess what? Today is Marcia's 56th birthday....Boy! Am I ready to spank that full, protruding butt!

Back in the 60's I read a letter in the magazine MR. sent in by a Japanese man who carried out discipline in a World War II female prison camp. He stated that the women being reprimanded were secured face down on a wooden bench. Then whipped on the bare buttocks with a thin bamboo rod. Trying not to break the skin or strike twice in the same place. But it did leave welts
He said most of the prisoners getting this discipline would grit and endure it, while some would cry or fight their bounds. And he couldn't remember any of them coming back for a second time.
I would say this is some what brutal, but apparently does work!

Sammy, I remember reading a very similar story. I'm not sure if it was in Mr. but it was in the letters to the editor of a magazine. It told about about POW camp during WWII where captured American nurses where being held. During a visit by a high ranking Japanese officer, one of the women who was serving as a waitress, spilled some tea or something on this VIP. Of course, her captors were incensed and she was punished immediately. It said that the policy of the camp was for women to be caned on their panties. But in this particular instances, the woman was caned on her bare bottom because she had spilled something on such a powerful man. However, I distinctly remember the writer surmising that it was probably due to the fact that she had "perfectly shaped half-moon buttocks" than any insult to the dignity of the officer in question. But she was given about two dozen strokes to the satisfaction of all concerned.

The latest on the beer drinking model is that she is still awaiting her appointment with the cane, but they insist that it is still going to happen. At one point she was taken into custody but they turned around and released her saying they were going to delay it until after Ramadan. In the meantime, a woman who served her the beer has also been sentenced to six strokes.

Its really funny to me that there has been such an out cry over this. The caning that she is facing amounts to nothing more than a flogging with a feather or a wet noodle. Its just a symbolic gesture that is not designed to inflict pain or cause any bodily injury. To me, the real injustice in this case is the fact that she was fined $1400 for drinking a beer. But nobody seems to raise an eyebrow about that. Its all about this play-pretend "caning" that she is to receive. She's even been offered a role in a movie about this incident when its all over.

That's the one Jackie. I think about a 1962 issue of MR. They were caned on the panties. But the new officer in charge changed it to bare bottom. As I can remember.